barack obama didn't win debates, joe biden won. actual debates, harvard and yale coaches enjoy will be paul ryan and joe biden. they'll be better. romney is good in a group setting, hasn't done a lot of one on one. the president, john mccain wasn't the best debater either. >> i talked to nathan sproul, how much ground romney has to gain, could be as much as seven points, that's a lot to gain through a debate performance. two guys can be well prepared, one sitting president. >> he did against bush. >> it is not the debate, what is it for mitt romney in the last five weeks of the campaign to change it. >> i think he has to go big, has to have a couple of really big ideas that connect with the american people and where they are. the economy is slowly getting better. there are real doubts about the medicare plan paul ryan put in place, it is beginning to hurt them in battleground states. i don't think there's one thing that can turn it around for him except the ufo theory which i keep coming back to. just had it again with the terroris